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RE: Paris By Night 105 (A Detailed Review) - 5/21/2012 2:19:39 PM

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like, i'm dying. literally.

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RE: Paris By Night 105 (A Detailed Review) - 5/21/2012 4:33:24 PM

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I'm dying toooo

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RE: Paris By Night 105 (A Detailed Review) - 5/21/2012 6:25:34 PM

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I know wth! What's taking thuynga so long to release PBN 105?? Please hurry thuynga my summer is here and I really want to watch it!

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RE: Paris By Night 105 (A Detailed Review) - 5/21/2012 9:02:36 PM

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Anh Minh's number wahhhh I want it now........ I think they are setting up ad videos for PBN 106 and a VIP party?? Soo.. I don't know what they are doing :(. Only 2 PBNS this year.. (excluding VIP) what has out world come toooo....

Kpop isn't even that good right now either... Ughhh

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RE: Paris By Night 105 (A Detailed Review) - 6/23/2012 11:34:04 AM

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btw... I'm watching the new Asia, PBN 105 will BLOW this one out of the freaking water.. It's beyond boring. Thuy Tien is in this one, her hair is pretty but her outfit.. It ****s to see someone like that go to a 2nd rate production :/ goodluck to her. THE DVD NEEDS TO COME OUT FASTER, IM DYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have to dissagree with you there. Currently watching pbn 105, and is litterly skipping each song right now. When did pbn go from a mix of both old and "new" younger music to only new and young music. It is soo boring to watch and I find the both MCs boring reading fan letters and talking about research that I dont give a s**t about.

Asia on the other hand had so much good music. Music with history, a good composition and amazing lyrics. Yes, it old music, but music that have tons of history. Some of them written before, under and after the war but that are still good, today! And they bring up good topics realated to our country, stuff I actually cares about! And thats why Asia dvds is on the uprise while pbn is going down for each dvd. Just keep it simple with good music, instead of making it too young and too complicated. Why do pbn keep bringing up their bad economy and talking about piracy. We know that it is a huge problem for our music industry, but you don't see asia jabbling about it!

Who is pbns main targets these days? 10-year olds who don't know good lyrics and is instead captured by all the dancing and colorful outfits? Some of the songs are soo pointless and lame.

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RE: Paris By Night 105 (A Detailed Review) - 6/23/2012 2:58:53 PM

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I agree to disagree.

I no longer find Asia interesting...
Back in the 90's, Asia was the s**t. They had great music, elaborate sets, etc. It was actually very youthful back in the days.
Now, Asia has has become so political and repetitious. Like, everything is so expected...
They have grown very lazy with assembling their performances as well. In Asia 68, there were literally 4 dancers that were sssoo amateur. It kind of reminded me of middle school dance recitals. Like, it was BAD.
Every performance I've seen on Asia, all I'd see is a singer lip-syncing to some song and walk back and forth on a stage. Asia 69 tried incorporating more dancers with more dancing and a nicer set b/c obviously they're losing the audience's interest.

I wouldn't say PBN appeals to ten year olds but to people of various ages. There's a little something for everybody.
That's what I love about PBN. They keep it fun and fresh.
Every show brings on a new interesting breath of fresh air to the audience, unlike Asia
Although, I have to admit NNN & KD do kind of exaggerate the company's production costs, set designs, audience attendance & whatever.
In a way, I thought PBN 105 was a definite notch down from PBN 104. I wasn't that into the set this time.
But I do feel like they're going to deliver with 106.
And that's another thing about PBN. They always keep me anticipated which I lovvvve.

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RE: Paris By Night 105 (A Detailed Review) - 6/23/2012 4:34:50 PM

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ORIGINAL: WinterQueen

I have to dissagree with you there. Currently watching pbn 105, and is litterly skipping each song right now. When did pbn go from a mix of both old and "new" younger music to only new and young music. It is soo boring to watch and I find the both MCs boring reading fan letters and talking about research that I dont give a s**t about.

Asia on the other hand had so much good music. Music with history, a good composition and amazing lyrics. Yes, it old music, but music that have tons of history. Some of them written before, under and after the war but that are still good, today! And they bring up good topics realated to our country, stuff I actually cares about! And thats why Asia dvds is on the uprise while pbn is going down for each dvd. Just keep it simple with good music, instead of making it too young and too complicated. Why do pbn keep bringing up their bad economy and talking about piracy. We know that it is a huge problem for our music industry, but you don't see asia jabbling about it!

Who is pbns main targets these days? 10-year olds who don't know good lyrics and is instead captured by all the dancing and colorful outfits? Some of the songs are soo pointless and lame.

like pbn or asia that is a subjective matter, but certain facts are very clear. for example, pbn is held at theater with capacity of over 7000 people, asia on the other hand is held at theater that is less than 1500 people and they even have a hard time selling tickets. u have mentioned asia is on an uprise but that doesnt show on demand for concert ticket.

another fact, go on youtube and compare asia videos to pbn's and see for yourself how much popular pbn is over asia. and even tn is hardcore at trying to delete their copyrighted contents. for pbn 104, it has over 1.2 million viewer for one upload(which recently got deleted by tn) and there were thousands of clips for pbn 104, asia 69 on the other hand attract a small number of viewers.

music and creativity go hand in hand. artists and music productions must take risk at creativity by introducing new songs, new music, new stage setting, new format, etc. in order to do so they must have resource as well as being creative by trying new ideas.

dont u think it is LAME for a production that take no risks by using old songs over and over again? i can pick out the best songs by tcs, vu thanh an, anh bang, ngo thuy mien that the general public know well and consider as classic or great songs, but what does that say about me? it is clear that i have lack of creativity and talent that i am unable to bring new ideas/songs to the table.

what is the point of watching music through dvd if everything is SIMPLE and GOOD MUSIC=OLD CLASSICS? music dvd is just like a movie, people in general like to watch it if there are new elements and ideas in it.

having new songs in each dvd is important and risky bc you dont know how the audience will react to it but it is a quintessential step to show that there is a future in new music and the music industry is moving forward instead of backward. it is a sign of creativity and innovation have taken place instead of letting the past taking over.

pbn songs are POINTLESS and LAME but thousands of people are willing to pay tickets up to a few grands to see it, asia on the other hand is having a hard time selling tickets at dirt cheap prices bc only the old and stubborn folks who are not willing to let go of the past buy it.

i used to be a big fan of asia up to asia 20's but after that.......whatever. one same old formula is being repeated over and over again. it is a music production not a frea king political machine. im not gonna waste my time on songs that i have heard a million times be4.

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RE: Paris By Night 105 (A Detailed Review) - 6/23/2012 6:27:34 PM

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PBN is visually spectacular, but the music arrangement is still bland. I prefer listening to Asia's musical arrangements.

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RE: Paris By Night 105 (A Detailed Review) - 6/23/2012 9:19:35 PM

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wow... is this real life? what I am reading right now? L0L.

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RE: Paris By Night 105 (A Detailed Review) - 6/24/2012 4:44:15 AM

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I think it is wrong to say that PBN is a mixture of both old and new music. If you look at the songlist for the past few dvds including pbn 105 it is all about new music. And you end up with what? 3-4 old songs? Out of 28 songs. That is not a good mix I tell you. I used to love pbn dvds, since i saw pbn 59, and it got bored when they reach 90...

are you really telling me to look up asia and pbns video on youtube and compare viewers and comments?? That would just tell you that pbns viewer has too much time on their hand to comment on videos and why pbn is losing money. Cause people just look up their stuff on youtube instead of buying it.

You can't just agree to dissagree with me?? Im not saying that im loving the hole songlist in asia 69 either, but for that songlist is a good mix. Pbn can still keep new music but throw in some old goodies too. Make the songlist more intresting. Like adding 7-8 old songs, that is not even half the song list and i would be a happy camper.

In the end of the day, for me voice and music arrangement beats out the show. Cause it is what a good show does, it just stays on that dvd or ends with the concert, while i carry the music whatever I go. So putting up a complicated show before a well composed music don't give me much.

It seems like you havent heard the topics that the MCs talks about. It is not about the soldiers, but about important stuff that happens in our country today. About VN not being democratic and not supporting others opinion. We are lucky enought to live outside that and have different opinion. People in the country don't. And to give that awareness to viet people around the world so that they can support the people in the country to try their hardes to not give up on the fact that a brighter future will come is not a bad thing.

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RE: Paris By Night 105 (A Detailed Review) - 6/24/2012 8:41:01 AM

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@congacon , 100% agree with you.

PBN is Lame and Pointless, that why people spend grands on tickets and spend a whole day to get tickets. "When did pbn go from a mix of both old and "new" younger music to only new and young music." well i do enjoy this if PBN just go with the regular version it would be plain boring. Asia never had a show in planet Hollywood because not many people watch asia live. But PBN went to planet Hollywood for the 4 times including this next upcoming PBN 106. PBN have like a minimum of 6 new songs for each DVD. But 105 had 10 copyright songs. Every show of PBN bring something fresh to the Vietnamese community, we need something new to our music collections.

It not just only the song list of the show will make the show a successful and joyful program, you will also need a big stage, dancers, lighting, costume, and set (and many more). PBN bring something fresh and joyful to our Vietnamese family all over the world.

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RE: Paris By Night 105 (A Detailed Review) - 6/24/2012 12:05:37 PM

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I think it is wrong to say that PBN is a mixture of both old and new music. If you look at the songlist for the past few dvds including pbn 105 it is all about new music. And you end up with what? 3-4 old songs? Out of 28 songs. That is not a good mix I tell you. I used to love pbn dvds, since i saw pbn 59, and it got bored when they reach 90...

are you really telling me to look up asia and pbns video on youtube and compare viewers and comments?? That would just tell you that pbns viewer has too much time on their hand to comment on videos and why pbn is losing money. Cause people just look up their stuff on youtube instead of buying it.

You can't just agree to dissagree with me?? Im not saying that im loving the hole songlist in asia 69 either, but for that songlist is be a good mix. Pbn can still keep new music but throw in some old goodies too. Make the songlist more intresting. Like adding 7-8 old songs, that is not even half the song list and i would be a happy camper.

In the end of the day, for me voice and music arrangement beats out the show. Cause it is what a good show does, it just stays on that dvd or ends with the concert, while i carry the music whatever I go. So putting up a complicated show before a well composed music don't give me much.

It seems like you havent heard the topics that the MCs talks about. It is not about the soldiers, but about important stuff that happens in our country today. About VN not being democratic and not supporting others opinion. We are lucky enought to live outside that and have different opinion. People in the country don't. And to give that awareness to viet people around the world so that they can support the people in the country to try their hardes to not give up on the fact that a brighter future will come is not a bad thing.

i told u to go on youtube to have an idea how popular pbn is in comparison to asia. the fact more people watch pbn on youtube means that people are more interested in pbn and that translate into more concert tickets and dvds are being sold.

talking about singers, pbn singers are definitely clear winners out of the gate. if u look at pbn singers schedule and compare that to asia's then you know the huge gap between the two groups.

if u think voices and arrangements are the most important then i recommend for you to skip asia 69 altogether to save u a few bucks bc asia brought the EXACT SAME arrangements and song from 20 years ago to asia 69.

do i really need the mcs to mention about the communists on each and every dvd? no i dont. it's music show not a political show. i spend money on entertainment not politics. it's ok if politic is being mixed with music every once in a while but not each and every time.

as a music fan, i would love to have more choices and options to choose from. i dont want to see asia disappears or slowdown. to me asia is a an old fashioned and outdated production instead of an innovative one. instead of moving forward with the music industry they choose a few giant steps backward. using the same old arrangements from 20 years ago, and keep on recycling old classics are clear example of their inability to be innovative and creative.

asia's fan base is old and even worse they are shrinking faster than the titanic. if u pay attention to current news then u know that they have a hard time selling concert tickets as evidence by their shows being held in small venues. i really hope your BEAUTIFUL WORDS about their products would reflect certain business successes rather than being a production that is struggling for survival and on the verge of extinction.

i admire truc ho for his humanity and courage but you should tell him TO GET WITH THE PROGRAM. people can't eat rice everyday...........not everyone is old fashioned and stubborn.

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RE: Paris By Night 105 (A Detailed Review) - 6/24/2012 12:48:55 PM

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Omggggg! I mean was PBN 103 not filled with older and classic songs? Thuy Nga makes variety of shows that the younger and older generation can watch! That's what I love about Paris By Night! Regardless of which DVD is better (obviously pbn 105) Thuynga is still known for being the best Vietnamiese music show, that's why PBN singers are generally worth more, in terms of local love shows!

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RE: Paris By Night 105 (A Detailed Review) - 6/24/2012 12:50:08 PM

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The people who like Asia buy Asia & the people that like PBN buy PBN. Simple as that :)

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RE: Paris By Night 105 (A Detailed Review) - 6/25/2012 6:41:28 AM

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I have to dissagree with you there. Currently watching pbn 105, and is litterly skipping each song right now. When did pbn go from a mix of both old and "new" younger music to only new and young music. It is soo boring to watch and I find the both MCs boring reading fan letters and talking about research that I dont give a s**t about.

If they are reading letters/news about human rights in VN, Việt Khang, bashing communist... like Asia constantly does ad nauseam, I bet you will not find it boring.

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if u think voices and arrangements are the most important then i recommend for you to skip asia 69 altogether to save u a few bucks bc asia brought the EXACT SAME arrangements and song from 20 years ago to asia 69.

as a music fan, i would love to have more choices and options to choose from. i dont want to see asia disappears or slowdown. to me asia is a an old fashioned and outdated production instead of an innovative one. instead of moving forward with the music industry they choose a few giant steps backward. using the same old arrangements from 20 years ago, and keep on recycling old classics are clear example of their inability to be innovative and creative.

This!!!
ASIA nowadays are famous for recycling old songs, old music arrangements and using political issue to sell DVDs. If they still have a large fan base, why don't they organize a show with huge budget like PBN used to do? And let's see how much DVD they will sell.
If PBN plays it safe like ASIA: just reusing old songs, hiring a bunch of amateur dancers to walk around on stage and holding a small show one after another, they will never complain for sure.

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RE: Paris By Night 105 (A Detailed Review) - 6/25/2012 8:50:47 AM

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This PBN versus ASIA comparison usually happened once in a while, and it went on and on, and never anything conclusive/useful came out of it. Fan of PBN would always say that PBN is first rated, and that ASIA is too much about political, and outdated. Fan of ASIA would always say that ASIA music selection and music arrangement are way better.

I watched both and I think each production has its own strength, and that's how they survived until now.

Personally, I like the PBN of old, like in Huế-SàiGon-Hà Nội, Chân Dung Người Phụ Nữ VN, 30 Năm Viễn Xứ, the songer writer themes like Phạm Duy, Lam Phương, Đức Huy, Hoàng Thi Thơ, v...

Today PBN is mostly about theatrical effects, choreography, and pretty singers. The music aspect seems degraded, my opinion.

Having said that, I do appreciate PBN effort to promote new music, as we can't always live with old songs. However, the quality of new songs is mostly mediocre, so PBN mixed in with some foreign translated songs. To be fair though, not all old songs are good either. Only the old songs that passed the test of time and are still being reused are good.

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RE: Paris By Night 105 (A Detailed Review) - 6/25/2012 9:20:36 AM

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I have to be clear that when i mean old music, i mean que huong music more.

Okej, then pbn can have their grand concert while their MCs keep complaining about how bad the economy of their production company is, and is it me or does pbn sell themself more and more for each concert/dvd? The money-giving thing was fun at the beginning, now I just seems like people go the get the chans to win 500-1000. And all the commercial for brands and MCs promoting their own brand that they represents. Yes asia does have commercials in their dvds, but not under their concert.

I can really see how good it goes for pbn. Just add more of those commercials and brand promotions and they will get that money that they keep complaining that they are losing.

I'll watch a good political statement anytime before listening to that milk or phonecard commercials anyday!!

If pbn could make good young pop music I would listen, but they don't, its worse then mediocre and all sound the same!

I find people here so fun. I have never in my post mention asia as the best production or anything, just that i found asia 69 to be better then pbn 105 and that preview pbn hasnt been good. And people are jumping on me. And telling me this and this about pbn, to look up this and this on youtube. How pbn is the best production ever. I mean, come on people! I know you guys are hardcore-diehard fans, but come on some dissagreement is good. And it seems like it is only diehard fans that can't stand other companys who is on this forum. Pbn 105 in MY eyes wasn't good as asia 69 and pbn from 90 and up hasn't been that good. But as a FAN OF VIETMUSIC industry I still support them BOTH. Cause we don't want our productions to end up like vanson, who has been missing for months!

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RE: Paris By Night 105 (A Detailed Review) - 6/25/2012 10:42:50 PM

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RE: Paris By Night 105 (A Detailed Review) - 6/26/2012 1:50:59 AM

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Toi tha la nghe nhac cu hay new songs with some class nhu Asia 69 con hon la nghe nhac moi, mang tieng la new music but rat la re tien, thi truong, nuot khg vo, vi du nhu vai chinh vai phu...nghe muon oe...Mang tieng la pbn co nhieu nhac moi ma den 90% thuoc loai thi truong, nghe qua 1 lan...roi thoi.
Thuc te from my co worders, rat nhieu nguoi bay gio chi muon vo youtube coi pbn free chu khg muon mua pbn goc for collection, ma luc truoc they were crazy about pbn, day la su that ro rang from my research...
Face the fact, pbn is very good on marketing, lights, stage, MCs very good through out the whole program, pbn still survive til nowadays because of NNN n NCKD, without those MCs, pbn would be death long time ago

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RE: Paris By Night 105 (A Detailed Review) - 6/26/2012 5:44:42 AM

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Xin bàn một chút về việc so sánh giữa hai chương trình Asia 69 và PBN 105. Asia hay Thúy Nga đều có những chương trình đặc sắc và bình thường. Thí dụ như Asia có ""Lá Thư Từ Chiến Trường", Thúy Nga có "Tôi Là Người Việt Nam" v.v... Asia lấy Việt Khang làm chủ đề có thể bắt được nhịp đập của một số khán giả hải ngoại trong khi PBN 105 chỉ là một chương trình thuần nghệ thuật. Vi vậy so sánh hai chương trình nầy để đi đến kết luận rằng trung tâm nầy hay hơn trung tâm kia là không khách quan.

Là người dân, đấu tranh cho tiến trình dân chủ hoặc chống lại tệ nạn tham nhũng là những việc làm chính đáng dù có thể bị đàn áp bởi chính quyền. Không ai phủ nhận ở Mỹ , Pháp, hay Thụy Điển người dân có được nhiều tự do hơn ở Nga, Trung quốc, hay Việt Nam. Nhưng điều nầy không có nghĩa là chính quyền ở các xứ được mệnh danh là tự do không đàn áp những người dân chống đối. Ở Mỹ phong trào “Chiếm lĩnh Wall Sreet” được dẹp tan không kèn không trống vì nó đụng đến lợi nhuận cốt lũy của giới tài phiệt núp sau những chiêu bài nhân quyền luôn mang hai tiêu chuẩn. Việt Nam tiếp cận với nhiều nước như Lào, Kampuchia, Phi Luật Tân, Brunei. Mã Lai Á, và đặc biệt Trung quốc. Tranh chấp biên giới và vùng biển ở đâu cũng có. Là người dân, ủng hộ cho sự toàn vẹn lãnh thổ là điều phải làm.

Sự kiện Việt Khang đáng được hoan nghênh và cổ vũ, và lồng chính trị vào một chương trình văn nghệ thoả mãn được tình cảm của một số người đồng thời cũng là cho một số khác cảm thấy bực bội. Những người lính già Nhật khi hồi tưởng lại giây phút khi nghe Thiên Hoàng của họ tuyên bố đầu hàng đồng minh vô điều kiện, họ âm thầm một mình trong phòng vắng mà khóc thương cho một quá khứ nhục nhã. Người Việt hải ngoại trước một phút cũng khóc thương cho số phận của VNCH và các chiến sĩ bỏ mình vì lý tưởng tự do, nhưng sau đó thì thoải mái thưởng thức những tiếc mục trẻ trung, nhảy nhót anh yêu em em yêu anh hay những màn kịch hài cười ôm bụng. Một MC vừa mới giận giữ vì nhà cầm quyền đương nhiệm bỗng xoay sang cười cợt lả lơi với em MC mơn mởn đào tơ bên cạnh. Người ta không biết những hình ảnh đó giúp hay phá hại công cuộc đấu tranh cho một Việt Nam tươi đẹp hơn ngày hôm nay.

Ông Tô văn Lai, bà Thúy, cô Marie To, anh Paul Huỳnh, ông Nguyễn Ngọc Ngạn, cô Nguyễn Cao Kỳ Duyên, bà Shanda Sawyer và các vũ công Steve, Pamela, Taeko…, các ca sĩ Khánh Hà, Minh Tuyết, Như Quỳnh, Nguyễn Hưng, Thế Sơn, Trần Thái Hòa… và các chuyện viện kỹ thuật đã góp công làm nên những tác phẩm nghệ thuật có chất lượng ngang tầm quốc tế và những chương trình Paris By Night để đời. Nói không có ông Ngạn thì không có PBN cũng như nói không có nước dung hay thịt bò tái thì không có tô phở Tàu Bay, nó là một mệnh đề cần nhưng chưa đủ vì thiếu bất cứ một tác nhân chủ yếu nào, PBN đã sẽ không là PBN.

(in reply to ngoi sao)

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